We're sad we didn't see it, but their smiles did hide conceit and their promises were empty, like a lie stuck on repeat for their pearly whites did sparkle as they pulled in many votes and their vocal slight of hand did say they had the antidotes
slippery they slide the gates are open wide the darker path now kicks this end time politics
heralded a leader who would pull us to the light, but all the while we're chained in lines and pulled towards the night. solution is together we will break all poverty but now it's all just shackles and we'll never now be free.
slippery they slide the gates are open wide the darker path now kicks this end time politics
the leader is immaculate, his life we do desire, but take a look and see his eyes are filled with endless fire.
every word that's spoken is another promise broken and now evil has awoken fork tongued politics every day they're lying and there's no point in even trying as they force a world complying fork tongued politics
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the leader is immaculate, his life we do desire, but take a look and see his eyes are filled with endless fire.
every word that's spoken is another promise broken and now evil has awoken fork tongued politics every day they're lying and there's no point in even trying as they force a world complying fork tongued politics
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:32 am
I could certainly see the congregation singing this one at our church on Sunday mornings.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:54 pm
In the UK we've just got a new Prime Minister, and a new government. They've already gone back on certain things they said. It always seems the same, you just can't trust some most of them.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:15 pm
Meet the new boss Same as the old boss
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:16 am
It's become so common for politicians to lie that nobody is surprised anymore when they do it. Makes me think there should be some sort of punishment for that.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:43 am
I thought it was comical when Mark Rowley threatened to extradite Americans over to Britain.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:38 am
Samson wrote:
I thought it was comical when Mark Rowley threatened to extradite Americans over to Britain.
Yeah, that was just crazy!
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:57 am
Fundy wrote:
In the UK we've just got a new Prime Minister, and a new government. They've already gone back on certain things they said. It always seems the same, you just can't trust some most of them.
Steve Taylor said it best when referencing a Christian politian: “he’ll never lie just embellish the truth.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:13 pm
I saw something today that was kind of sad. When you know a musician can bring to life their ideas, but they use AI to do the bulk of the music. I have no problem using AI to help inspire you. I have done that on a song. But, I kept making changes until it was my work and is played by me on guitar and bass. This artist has used mostly AI. At that, I will draw the line and not buy said work.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:51 am
Samson wrote:
I thought it was comical when Mark Rowley threatened to extradite Americans over to Britain.
Come at me, bro!
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:57 pm
alldatndensum wrote:
I saw something today that was kind of sad. When you know a musician can bring to life their ideas, but they use AI to do the bulk of the music. I have no problem using AI to help inspire you. I have done that on a song. But, I kept making changes until it was my work and is played by me on guitar and bass. This artist has used mostly AI. At that, I will draw the line and not buy said work.
Oh yeah. I'm not going to intentionally buy any music that is completely AI generated. Or even if the music is AI and the vocals are real... just seems wrong for some reason.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:57 am
There’s an account on Spotify called H.AI.R Metal, which is hair metal inspired and completely AI. (It’s not Christian.) I dig it. I look at it as similar to any other instrument. If someone can use a computer to generate sounds in a pattern I enjoy, I don’t care that it’s AI. Someone still has to write it and program it.
By the way, I really enjoyed the song in the OP. Well done!!
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:52 am
AI isn't somebody using a computer to create music. They enter a description of what they want and the computer pieces together bit and bobs from its database to "create" something. As long as AI keeps using the past to "create" new, the future will never progress. AI manipulates, it doesn't innovate.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:40 am
Follower of Jesus wrote:
By the way, I really enjoyed the song in the OP. Well done!!
Thank you
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:30 am
Xid wrote:
AI isn't somebody using a computer to create music. They enter a description of what they want and the computer pieces together bit and bobs from its database to "create" something. As long as AI keeps using the past to "create" new, the future will never progress. AI manipulates, it doesn't innovate.
Actually, that is no longer accurate. A.I. has been able to manufacture new information on its own for awhile now. It can innovate new ideas to varying degrees. Scary. Which is why a "Forbin Project" scenario is so threatening to developers.
I have believed A.I. would take over the music industry for years. Concerts will be A.I. controlled music, lighting, holography, everything, and audiences will love it.
Imagine seeing a Beatle's reunion, with new songs. Or ELP or Cream or any band from the 60's and 70's or artists from any era or generation. No humans to pay or deal with all the egos and demanding prima donnas that the industry has sometimes had to live with, etc., etc., etc. Everything will come from a few companies that will control the entire industry and those companies will be run by A.I. itself.
There are already robots that can play musical instruments in very simple form but, all that will change, as well. Robotics is exponentially advancing.
I may not live to see it but, it's coming. Humans will be the fringe element of music someday. It cannot be avoided, save for severe backlash from artists themselves but, when it comes to making money, the suits will ultimately ignore the human element and go with the tech every time. It began with synthesizers and drum machines. It will advance to the demise of humans involved in professional music. Humanity is being sized up for it.
Tragedy but, it will happen.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:21 am
If that does happen, what a stale world it will be. A.I. won't discover "happy accidents" that will take an average piece of music and make it great. A.I. won't be able to feel the guitar in its hands and make a tiny mistake or flub that changes how it approaches the instrument. A.I. won't create a piece of music, go to sleep and wake up the next morning with an inspiration to change a bass line or drum fill that just takes things to a new level.
The only way to get the attack of a guitar pick on a string, is to attack. The sound may be mimicked, but that attack only comes from physical pieces hitting each other.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:38 am
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The sound may be mimicked, but that attack only comes from physical pieces hitting each other.
Look at A.I. art engines. They produce beyond fantastic imagery. Imagination beyond what humans think of. It is changing album jacket artwork and artists are incredibly worried their place in this world is being pushed out.
Is that not the point of Artificial Intelligence. Artificial intelligence, artificial feelings, artificial love, artificial reactions, artificial sentience...
We live in a world of artificial flowers and plants, artificial food, artificial "fake news," and even what we call or refer to as artificial or plastic people. Lucifer has been planning this for ages. This is a program. Artificial Christianity. Artificial faith. Artificial ministry. Artificial Christ. AntiChrist: antechristos - in place of Christ.
I am about to begin recording an album using edrums, which have been around for decades now. I do not want to use edrums and have to get into the learning curve but, my current circumstances only allow for edrums to be used. Edrums into digital, data streams into Virtual recording studios.
Our reality is being programmed by technology which generates the artificial and does so splendidly, for all intents and purposes, for both positive and negative use.
It ain't sundial land anymore.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
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Subject: Re: A.I. Thread Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:58 am
I think the pop music industry is only one or two steps away from AI generated music. I don't watch a lot of his stuff but Rick Beato has a few videos that show the state of Pop music as horribly "inhuman" (for lack of a better term). He did a breakdown of a Taylor Swift song that showed it was computer produced/looped drum beats, guitars and keys "created" by her producers with her lyrics and voice on top of it. Not even a band in the studio. He also did a look at the top 100 Spotify songs and the more than 80 of them were "solo artists" (probably using a lot of the same digital effects/loops for music). Only something like 6 of the top 100 were actually full bands of musicians that were newer than 20 years old. That's really sad.
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I think the pop music industry is only one or two steps away from AI generated music. I don't watch a lot of his stuff but Rick Beato has a few videos that show the state of Pop music as horribly "inhuman" (for lack of a better term). He did a breakdown of a Taylor Swift song that showed it was computer produced/looped drum beats, guitars and keys "created" by her producers with her lyrics and voice on top of it. Not even a band in the studio. He also did a look at the top 100 Spotify songs and the more than 80 of them were "solo artists" (probably using a lot of the same digital effects/loops for music). Only something like 6 of the top 100 were actually full bands of musicians that were newer than 20 years old. That's really sad.
It's all about money. Consider your subject. Taylor Swift could purchase 100 recording studios and staff them. Hire a hundred musicians, human orchestras and surround herself with the best musicians on Earth. What does she do? What do her producers and engineers do? They use technology. Saves money, ends up "perfect," even her voice made perfect through technology.
Man, I am so glad I grew up in the 60's and 70's when perfection in music was not something anyone looked for or expected. We just looked for human variety and uniqueness and individual voice at whatever we did.
The entrance of "perfection" in music is going to kill human application of skills, heart and soul, elasticity, and the listening public will not realize it. Even if they recognize the perfection, they will accept it. They already are and have been for four decades since click tracks became "necessary."
I have no idea why music has to be perfect. Humans are not perfect. Nothing we do is perfect. Why does music have to be perfect?
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