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I'd want to hear something before I even thought about buying it.

After the flaming turd that Guardian dropped on us, so would I!  Just because they were once a good band doesn't mean they still are.

alldatndensum wrote:

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I'd want to hear something before I even thought about buying it.

After the flaming turd that Guardian dropped on us, so would I!  Just because they were once a good band doesn't mean they still are.

But if they are half as good as they were they are 100% better than a lot of the ... stuff ... produced today.

As for Guardian, I like their latest.  Their best?  No, but still not a "flaming turd." Just my opinion of course, which in the grand scheme of things amounts to diddly squat, but mine none-the-less.

messiaen77 wrote:

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If he has music to share, then just do it.  There won't be a demand for it if you don't do it.  Do they expect the old fans to fall out of the woodwork to come get this since it has been 20 plus years since they've been gone?  Hardly!  They are going to have to work this just like they did when they were young.  If they want it to happen again, then Novella will have to do it.  When they quit after 2 albums, many of the fans moved on.  Its what fans do.

This has been my thought as well.  I never really got into Novella for some reason.  I think my tastes were going more toward thrash and extreme metal when they came out.  Anyway, if you want an audience for your music, you have to go get it.  You have to give people something to get excited about.  Something they want to share with their friends.  20 years can be a lifetime in music, particularly singers, so I'd want to hear something before I even thought about buying it.

If all you want is an audience for your music, your name is Michael Sweet.  Novella has not been in it for the money for some time, if they ever were, and if they did it now it would need to be as much for them as for any fans, old or new.

My dad put out two CDs that most people wouldn't like; some middle-aged guy singing gospel songs to pre-recorded tracks. He didn't do it because he thought he could make money, nor did he do it because he had money to burn. He did it because he wanted to share his talent beyond the few people that came to the church services he sang at. He did it because he wanted to .... period.

As for hearing it before buying it, I've done that and still bought it, even though I didn't like it and never play it. And I'd do it again. Why? Because I'd rather support someone doing something they enjoy than throw money away on a lousy fast-food meal that is going to get flushed anyway.

I wish I understood why people have to slam others that make an effort to put themselves out there, saying "that sucked" or "his stuff was terrible." 95% percent of us don't have the musical talent to make a kazoo work! I applaud, and whenever possible support, anyone that makes the effort to say, "hey, I'm making this record. If you'll help me pay for the cost I'll give you a free copy."  Only once have I been truly disappointed, and even that wasn't a full flop; the band was great, but the singer needed to let someone else do it.

Yeah Beardad, I also find it annoying when people tend to blast artists like that. If you notice from my posts, I try to stay positive and supportive of the bands. If I don't like something I usually tend to just keep quite about it (unless I am posting saying I didn't like it before, but now I do...like my SW and King James post. But that is a positive post).

I didn't understand the comment about Michael Sweet. Was that a shot at him for something?

I can guarantee you, Michael isn't only concerned about having an audience. Yes, he is very good at promoting and getting his name out there, but he is absolutely driven to make the best music he can possibly make.

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As for Guardian, I like their latest.  Their best?  No, but still not a "flaming turd." Just my opinion of course, which in the grand scheme of things amounts to diddly squat, but mine none-the-less.

Just a difference of opinion.  I hated it and sold mine quickly.  If they ever do another album and it is in this style, I won't support it.

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I wish I understood why people have to slam others that make an effort to put themselves out there, saying "that sucked" or "his stuff was terrible."

Because it is a free country for us to be able to express opinions.  So, are we just supposed to lie and tell everyone how awesome something was?  No.  Besides, if no one is critical of a band or artist, then they are just going to keep putting out disappointing art. 

We're all entitled to an opinion.  We all have a right to express it and I expressed mine.  This smells like the attitude that everyone seems to have these days that you cannot offend anyone and that people have a right to never hear anything negative at all.  As long as there is free speech, then people should be able to state that they did or didn't like something.  If you want reasons, I can give those on the Guardian record:

1.  Too ballad heavy.  If I wanted a light rock album, I could have bought dozens of pop rock bands already doing this stuff.

2.  The rockers were almost void of guitar solos.  Just more generic modern rock from a band that clearly wasn't.

3.  Of the rockers, a couple were just short instrumentals.

Overall, the Guardian project was a snoozer FOR ME.  While some fans like it, many thought it was a sad effort and a great album to call their permanent retirement piece.

Do you two ever read reviews?   Aren't reviewers sometimes critical about bands?  On a public forum, we are ALL album reviewers to an extent.

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 Besides, if no one is critical of a band or artist, then they are just going to keep putting out disappointing art. 

That's not really always true.

I think sales will dictate more if they stay with a style or change. $$$$ 

Look at all the thousands that slam Swift on a daily basis..lol..she sells so she ain't changing.

Also, I don't think BearDad was saying you can't level criticism at bands...I think he was saying that making comments like "they suck" or "they are bums" is ridiculous when obviously they have talent. It's one thing to critique an album or band, it's another to simply spew negativity towards them.

At least that's how I took it.

^ Exactly. Thank you NOIH.

Alldat, I think there is a big difference between your breakdown above concerning why you didn't like Guardian's effort and "After the flaming turd they dropped on us."  The latter is a slam, IMO. Perhaps "After Guardian's disappointing release" would have been a kinder way to say it?

To be honest, there are a lot of things on this board (and others) -- opinions people state and things they share -- about which I remain silent because my own opinion is less than kind. As for reading reviews, I don't normally read them because they are one of two extremes -- "uber awesome" or "totally foul" -- and more times than not the reviewer is biased.  Also, in the end I often disagree, particularly when it concerns music, because I like virtually everything.