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Guest Guest
| Subject: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:08 am | |
| As most people here know, and especially those people that are also on CMR or in the FB group for CHM, I have been a very vocal supporter of Bloodgood's kickstarter. But I gotta tell you, their last update rubbed me the wrong. I am all for making rewards for going over the goal, in fact I suggested that in a CMR thread before. What bothers me is saying that if they reach the 20k mark they will use David Zaffiro, which would indicate they won't use him if they fall short of that. I don't know, maybe I am just reading more into it than I should. I have no issues with the other rewards, just the whole Zaffiro thing bugs me. It sounds like they are willing to settle for less unless they reach their other "new" goal, even though we met the original goal. This their last update: New $20,000 Kickstarter stretch goal!!! | What will happen if BLOODGOOD hits the new goal of 20K? |
-David Zaffiro, original BLOODGOOD guitarist and 7-time Dove award winner and Grammy nominee, will master the album! -Everyone in the Kickstarter family whose pledge is $5 or more will get a download of BLOODGOOD'S debut Metal Missionaries ep. -There'll be more time in the studio to create killer mixes! -You'll have a better sounding record with downloads available in FLAC format as well as mp3! |
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Fundy
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 50 Registration date : 2007-05-04
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:04 am | |
| Yeh, I know what you mean. Maybe it was something along the lines of they were getting someone else to master it because David didn't have the time, but with the extra money he can take time off work and devote a couple of weeks to doing it?
It is slightly strange but maybe it's because I don't know the full ins and outs of what is going on. I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
Fundy _________________ My Christian Metal Website......... Silence Is Madness
Three Things for a better life... 1 - Believe In Jesus. 2 - Love one another. 3 - Let God be the judge. That is all I need to say.
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:28 am | |
| I definitely agree about giving them the benefit of the doubt .
I just did not think the whole tease about David Z was necessary. So now, if they do not hit 20k, will people feel disappointed because they don't get the extra bonuses? You should not be made to feel like you failed when you actually did reach the Kickstarter amount |
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alldatndensum Admin
Number of posts : 23649 Age : 55 Localisation : Tennessee Registration date : 2007-01-30
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:23 am | |
| Kickstarter, to me, has just gone too far. _________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. https://christianhardmusic.niceboard.com/ | |
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rockerVu2
Number of posts : 16645 Age : 95 Registration date : 2007-02-09
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:52 am | |
| For me, Kickstarter has just gone to far.
I will support Bloodgood to buy the new CD. But don't give $$$ to their kickstarter project. | |
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ishmael81
Number of posts : 3417 Age : 43 Localisation : St Louis Registration date : 2012-06-08
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:37 am | |
| Maybe David said he would master the album but only for a set amount of money and they couldn't afford it unless they went over the 20k mark? I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand, we all know there's a bunch of this kind of thing most bands have little to no control over... | |
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Staybrite
Number of posts : 23657 Age : 56 Localisation : Arizona Desert Registration date : 2007-02-08
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:39 am | |
| Hey if you are going to ask for the fans to pay for it why not ask for the moon? _________________ "I used to be indecisive.......... Now I'm not sure."
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Guilty/Forgiven
Number of posts : 9986 Age : 54 Localisation : Yucca Valley, CA Registration date : 2007-05-18
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:06 am | |
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rockerVu2
Number of posts : 16645 Age : 95 Registration date : 2007-02-09
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:56 pm | |
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unworthy
Number of posts : 856 Age : 45 Localisation : Arcanum, OH Registration date : 2012-06-08
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:20 pm | |
| actually if you scroll back a little bit on the updates you'll understand the zaffiro thing a little more. | |
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topshot rhit
Number of posts : 3889 Localisation : Indiana Registration date : 2007-01-30
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:12 am | |
| - undefined wrote:
-Everyone in the Kickstarter family whose pledge is $5 or more will get a download of BLOODGOOD'S debut Metal Missionaries ep. |
Not having read any of the project rewards, this one would boil my blood. If they don't make the 20K goal, how much did you need to donate to get the EP download? Offering them as FLAC costs little as well except some extra bandwidth. _________________ "If you are not concerned about your neighbor's salvation, you should be concerned about your own."
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:54 am | |
| Unworthy...i see nothing that would clarify. Please elaborate.
I hope u do not mean the studio time comment. The comment there was made as they get David Z and "also get more studio time" comment, not that they get David Z because of more studio time.
Keep in mind people, i am backing the project. I am an avid supporter. I just did not like the new goals because it seems that another carrot was used as bait AFTER we met the goal, so even though we hit the goal NOW there will be some level of disappointment if we don't hit the new mark. I don't think that is right. |
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Follower of Jesus
Number of posts : 817 Registration date : 2007-05-02
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:26 am | |
| Kickstarter rubs me wrong in any case. However, for those who supported the effort and contributed to the original 15k goal, I can only imagine frustration when receiving this new goal, after having reached the first goal. Did the band not know that this was a possibility when the Kickstarter campaign started? It wasn't that long a campaign. Did the band find out about Zaffiro after the Kickstarter began? If this was a possibility before the Kickstarter campaign started, this reeks. At the very least, as soon as the band knew of the possibility, the Kickstarter campaign should have been revised to state the new goal and why. But to trumpet a goal over and over, and get support to that goal, and then announce a new higher goal? I like Bloodgood, and I believe they're good guys (though I don't know them), but this was handled poorly to say the least. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:37 am | |
| Zaffiro had been involved in one capacity or another since day one.
One of the Kickstarter rewards is a Metal Missionaries cd signed by the 4 original members. Seeing that, I posted a question to them asking if, since David was around and on good terms if he would play at all on the album or on tour, they said no but that he co wrote a song on there. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:39 am | |
| And frustration is a good choice of words to describe it...FofJ |
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MikeInFla
Number of posts : 3150 Age : 53 Localisation : Kalamazoo, MI Registration date : 2012-03-18
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:17 pm | |
| I have said it before and will say it again-- I'm glad they are making new music but I won't buy it until it shows up on iTunes. No Kickstarter for me now or ever. | |
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mr.electric40
Number of posts : 678 Localisation : California Registration date : 2009-10-10
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:48 pm | |
| My question becomes who WILL master it if they dont hit this extra goal....???
Tennessee Ernie Ford? Mel Gibson? Jimmy Swagart? George Beverly Shea?? oh yea he went to be with Jesus....
The Zaffiro thing was just not handled well at all..... Does anyone really care if he has 7 Dove awards??? How many metal awards does he have?
I'll just wait for the album to arrive....
I'm just curious who actually contributed to this project $$$.... Are there really that many Bloodgood fans? Guess so.... I mean Tourniquet did this too didnt they? | |
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Pro-Zak
Number of posts : 389 Age : 61 Localisation : Cleveland, Oh Registration date : 2013-08-03
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:14 am | |
| Yes they did, and that lp hasn't exactly gotten stellar reviews... | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:51 am | |
| - mr.electric40 wrote:
I'm just curious who actually contributed to this project $$$.... Are there really that many Bloodgood fans? Guess so.... I mean Tourniquet did this too didnt they? I contributed...$50 level. I wanted the cd and to have it signed by the 5 current members .... there isn't a whole lot of inexpensive signed Bloodgood merchandise out there, let alone anything with the current lineup all signing on the same item. A little pricey..but I also really wanted to support the band. The video updates they send supporters have been kinda fun. I was fine til the 20k thing... |
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MikeInFla
Number of posts : 3150 Age : 53 Localisation : Kalamazoo, MI Registration date : 2012-03-18
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:04 am | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:20 am | |
| Yeah...the cover got a big meh out of me.
Would have thought after 20 plus years they would have wanted a more memorable cover. |
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MikeInFla
Number of posts : 3150 Age : 53 Localisation : Kalamazoo, MI Registration date : 2012-03-18
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:00 am | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:26 am | |
| A lot of people upped their bid to get to the 20k
I did not.
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MikeInFla
Number of posts : 3150 Age : 53 Localisation : Kalamazoo, MI Registration date : 2012-03-18
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:26 pm | |
| yeah the cover kind of blah.... but it would make a cool t-shirt. By the way B4L, I didn't change my bid either, I am still at $0. (Or how bout I double it?!?) Will pay $9.99 when it shows up on iTunes. | |
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bassdude
Number of posts : 614 Age : 53 Localisation : Hannibal, MO Registration date : 2012-06-08
| Subject: Re: Bloodgood's kickstarter project going too far? Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:37 pm | |
| The whole Kickstarter thing angers me.....you want me to hear and buy your music? You better find a way to get it recorded and into my hands.....by paying for it yourself.
I've been in bands....we paid for our own stuff. | |
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