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| Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold | |
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| Subject: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:58 pm | |
| A petition for Texas to secede from the union, submitted to the White House, reached the number of signatures needed to draw comment from the Obama administration today.
The petition appeared on a section of the White House website called "We the People" that invites users with a U.S. zip code to submit or sign petitions about policy changes they would like to see. A petition must reach 25,000 signatures within 30 days for the administration to comment on it.
The Petition to "Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government," was submitted on Friday of last week. Just three days later, it zoomed past the 25,000 mark at 3:22 p.m. today and kept going. In order to sign a petition, users must register with the site using a valid email address and entering their zip code. The site's terms of participation indicates it has mechanisms in place to block spam, but it does not say anything about verifying zip codes or state residency.
Many signatures on the petition came from Texas, but some also claimed to be from other states, including Flagstaff, Ariz., Pinebluff, Ark., and Rio Rancho, N.M. Some did not publicly list their residency.
At least 17 other states have similar petitions to the Texas secession request on the We the People forum including New Jersey, New York, Montana, Colorado, Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, South Carolina, Oregon and Michigan. The closest behind Texas was Louisiana with 15,617 signatures. In 2009, Texas Gov. Rick Perry hinted that anti-Washington sentiment could lead residents of his state to seek independence from the union.
"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."
At time of publishing, Perry's office had not responded to a request for comment.
So far, the president has not commented on the petition and there is no guarantee that he will. The terms of participation give the president some loopholes.
"To avoid the appearance of improper influence, the White House may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition," the site says. |
| | | ishmael81
Number of posts : 3417 Age : 43 Localisation : St Louis Registration date : 2012-06-08
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:04 pm | |
| It sounds to me like Perry isn't even backing the secession... | |
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| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:25 pm | |
| Alot of people in TEXAS not backing Perry to much these days. Our state law says a vote of the people can override even the governor...who knows! |
| | | ishmael81
Number of posts : 3417 Age : 43 Localisation : St Louis Registration date : 2012-06-08
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:40 pm | |
| Wow... So we might need a passport to go see some friends in DFW soon! | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:31 pm | |
| since it doesn't appear that those streaming across our southern border need a passport I guess no one else would either.. |
| | | Staybrite
Number of posts : 23657 Age : 56 Localisation : Arizona Desert Registration date : 2007-02-08
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:44 pm | |
| Last I heard there were somewhere in the neighborhood of 23 states putting together similar petitions. But, in order to sucede the state has to be granted it by congress, and that is likely to happen. _________________ "I used to be indecisive.......... Now I'm not sure."
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| | | alldatndensum Admin
Number of posts : 23649 Age : 55 Localisation : Tennessee Registration date : 2007-01-30
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:24 pm | |
| Tennesee also has a petition for this. We are just 3,000 more from getting enough signatures. I don't think all of them are legal, though, as some are coming from other states.
I doubt it would happen, but I kind of wish we could secede. Our government doesn't really represent the will of the people in Tennessee anymore. I doubt that is going to change in the future. Let us off this ride and start a new union. _________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. https://christianhardmusic.niceboard.com/ | |
| | | Staybrite
Number of posts : 23657 Age : 56 Localisation : Arizona Desert Registration date : 2007-02-08
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:50 pm | |
| - Staybrite wrote:
- Last I heard there were somewhere in the neighborhood of 23 states putting together similar petitions. But, in order to
sucede SECEDE the state has to be granted it by congress, and that ISN'T likely to happen. Man with all my stoopid spelling and grammer errors its a wonder anyone can understand me. _________________ "I used to be indecisive.......... Now I'm not sure."
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| | | bassdude
Number of posts : 614 Age : 53 Localisation : Hannibal, MO Registration date : 2012-06-08
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:05 pm | |
| You just have to hope the government doesn't just decide to cancel the citizenship of all those who have signed the petitions......after all, they are basically asking to not be citizens of the U.S. anymore. | |
| | | Driven
Number of posts : 6210 Age : 106 Localisation : Sherbrooke, QC Registration date : 2011-03-26
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:08 pm | |
| In Canada, a slightly similar situation is taking place, because the Province of Québec (very different from the rest of Canada in that it's pretty much all French) might secede from Canada. It almost happened before in the '80s, and the recent provincial election brought a separatist party to power.
Time will tell… I'm guessing Congress won't let Texas go on account of the riches it holds, like gas. | |
| | | alldatndensum Admin
Number of posts : 23649 Age : 55 Localisation : Tennessee Registration date : 2007-01-30
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:57 pm | |
| - bassdude wrote:
- You just have to hope the government doesn't just decide to cancel the citizenship of all those who have signed the petitions......after all, they are basically asking to not be citizens of the U.S. anymore.
GOOD! Then I can get free health care, free welfare checks, free food stamps, free cell phones, and free housing by being here illegally! _________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. https://christianhardmusic.niceboard.com/ | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:03 pm | |
| - Quote :
- GOOD! Then I can get free health care, free
welfare checks, free food stamps, free cell phones, and free housing by being here illegally! Actually You most likely already qualify for this. All my kids get free healthcare, food stamps, college tuition, and a housing allowance. They get free cellphone when they con their grandma into paying for it. My daughter told me you just have to apply and work the system. I am not thrilled with what they do but it seems to be what the younger generations do. Living in a college town I see it all around me. Thats why Obama got re-elected... |
| | | ishmael81
Number of posts : 3417 Age : 43 Localisation : St Louis Registration date : 2012-06-08
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:07 am | |
| - Staybrite wrote:
- Staybrite wrote:
- Last I heard there were somewhere in the neighborhood of 23 states putting together similar petitions. But, in order to
sucede SECEDE the state has to be granted it by congress, and that ISN'T likely to happen. Man with all my stoopid spelling and grammer errors its a wonder anyone can understand me. Its kewl man, moast of us no whut yur talking abooot. | |
| | | Staybrite
Number of posts : 23657 Age : 56 Localisation : Arizona Desert Registration date : 2007-02-08
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:28 pm | |
| - ishmael81 wrote:
- Staybrite wrote:
- Staybrite wrote:
- Last I heard there were somewhere in the neighborhood of 23 states putting together similar petitions. But, in order to
sucede SECEDE the state has to be granted it by congress, and that ISN'T likely to happen. Man with all my stoopid spelling and grammer errors its a wonder anyone can understand me. Its kewl man, moast of us no whut yur talking abooot. Gud thang, cuz I dont uzually have eny klue wot im sayin. _________________ "I used to be indecisive.......... Now I'm not sure."
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| | | bassdude
Number of posts : 614 Age : 53 Localisation : Hannibal, MO Registration date : 2012-06-08
| | | | Driven
Number of posts : 6210 Age : 106 Localisation : Sherbrooke, QC Registration date : 2011-03-26
| Subject: Re: Texas Petition to Secede Reaches Threshold Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:03 am | |
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