MANDATORY VOTING

So the president is in favor of making a law that requires people to vote or face a fine .....
Personally I am against this idea...what do you guys and gals think?

sounds like fascism to me. Just makes this picture that much more meaningful...

I'm against it unless he allows a morality clause that would enable people to not vote due to a moral or religous belief.

Completely against it and I agree with Beardad that it reeks of fascism.  It's already bad enough that we are forced by law to have medical insurance....now this.

However I do think that if you do not vote you should lose your right to complain about how the country is governed (not that I'm sure it's a "right" per se)

A democratically selected president that wants a socialist health care system and a fascist voting system. 

How can you force people to vote. It is a right, a freedom to vote. People are fighting wars to get this freedom.

100% against.

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A democratically selected president that wants a socialist health care system and a fascist voting system.

hmm..He was elected twice and the second time we all knew who he was and what his intentions were/are...yet 51.1% of voters got him re Elected....the demographic is interesting...

18 to 24 yo...60% of the vote
25 to 29 yo...60% of the vote
30 to 39 yo...60% of the vote
40 to 49 yo...48% of the vote
50 to 64 yo...47% of the vote
65 and older...44% of the vote

Thats alot of Americans that knew him and his agenda and agree with him..

oteis wrote:

How can you force people to vote. It is a right, a freedom to vote. People are fighting wars to get this freedom.

It's a law in Australia. But I believe there's a morality clause similiar to what I alluded to above.

Savage Amusement wrote:

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A democratically selected president that wants a socialist health care system and a fascist voting system.

hmm..He was elected twice and the second time we all knew who he was and what his intentions were/are...yet 51.1% of voters got him re Elected....the demographic is interesting...

18 to 24 yo...60% of the vote
25 to 29 yo...60% of the vote
30 to 39 yo...60% of the vote
40 to 49 yo...48% of the vote
50 to 64 yo...47% of the vote
65 and older...44% of the vote

Thats alot of Americans that knew him and his agenda and agree with him..

All those percentages prove is that most people simply don't learn and they don't do the research to verify what they are told.  They simply believe whatever they are told by their friends, celebrities, and the liberal media. Most people are content to believe it is sunny outside simply because they have been told it is, rather than get off their lazy backs sides to go look out the window to see for themselves. Obama is nothing if not a smooth talker; he tells people what they want to hear.

As for your "That's a lot of Americans that knew him and his agenda and agree with him" statement -- the American people don't vote for the president, the electoral college does. You can have fewer citizens from a larger state, like CA, vote than those of a less populated state, like SD, and the CA voters can still win due to how their electors vote.  "By the people, for the people" .... pfffttthht!

even if it wasn't an electoral college vote and was a genuine people vote the stats show that he would have still won...i think the stats are dead on..it might be hard for you to believe but I really am convinced that that many Americans support his ideas...alot of people are no longer interested in the ideas of the past...

The other thing is that for both elections African Americans voted in much higher numbers. My job is about 95% black people (which doesn't bother me one bit) and I remember several people saying they'd rather vote for him than anyone else.

Sherri Shepherd was co-hosting The View at the time of Obama's first election.  She said right there on national TV that she had never voted in a Presidential Election until Obama.  She was 41 at the time.

I think in the next presidential election we will see blacks, Hispanics and young people vote in record numbers and they will elect the next president...

Savage Amusement wrote:

even if it wasn't an electoral college vote and was a genuine people vote the stats show that he would have still won...i think the stats are dead on..it might be hard for you to believe but I really am convinced that that many Americans support his ideas...alot of people are no longer interested in the ideas of the past...

I don't disbelieve that that many people believe in him. I simply don't understand it. 

Of course, stating that people did, or do, believe in Obama doesn't really say that much. Most of the population of Germany believed in Hitler during his rise in the 30's, and even throughout much of the war. 

And sadly you are right, people are no longer interested in the ideas of the past ... morality, decency, holiness, etc.  They want Sodom, and they have it.

Savage Amusement wrote:

I think in the next presidential election we will see blacks, Hispanics and young people vote in record numbers and they will elect the next president...

And her name will be ...

ishmael81 wrote:

I remember several people saying they'd rather vote for him than anyone else.

And sadly, much of this sentiment was based on skin color alone, the "one of us" mentality.  I cannot help but wonder who would have won if Ben Carson had been running for president at the same time.

BearDad wrote:

ishmael81 wrote:

I remember several people saying they'd rather vote for him than anyone else.

And sadly, much of this sentiment was based on skin color alone...

And that crossed cultures, too.  I heard several people, regardless of skin color, say that they voted for Obama because they wanted to be a part of history.

BearDad wrote:

ishmael81 wrote:

I remember several people saying they'd rather vote for him than anyone else.

And sadly, much of this sentiment was based on skin color alone, the "one of us" mentality.  I cannot help but wonder who would have won if Ben Carson had been running for president at the same time.

I certainly would have voted for Ben Carson over Obama

ishmael81 wrote:

oteis wrote:

How can you force people to vote. It is a right, a freedom to vote. People are fighting wars to get this freedom.

It's a law in Australia. But I believe there's a morality clause similiar to what I alluded to above.

I think it's weird... even with the morality clause. Why make a law...What is the worst thing that could happen. Being elected with only 30% of the population?

Dear Obozo, 

kiss my butt.

Sincerely, 
  Samson

You can't really say that all those people voted for Obama because they agree with him.  Sometimes it really is who a person perceives as the lesser of the evils. 

Mandatory voting will never be a thing here.

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Mandatory voting will never be a thing here.

well brother, they said Obama would never get elected and that Obamacare would never be law yet here we are so I wouldn't be to sure...

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And her name will be ...

personally if the right woman ran and I supported her ideas and felt she could handle the job (and plenty of women could) I would vote for her.. surely you dont have a problem with a woman being president do ya BearDad?

Staybrite wrote:

BearDad wrote:

ishmael81 wrote:

I remember several people saying they'd rather vote for him than anyone else.

And sadly, much of this sentiment was based on skin color alone, the "one of us" mentality.  I cannot help but wonder who would have won if Ben Carson had been running for president at the same time.

I certainly would have voted for Ben Carson over Obama

I had to look up Ben Carson. I think I would have voted for him too.

Savage Amusement wrote:

surely you dont have a problem with a woman being president do ya BearDad?

Not at all. I just suspect that we will have a woman president soon. I am earnestly praying and hoping it isn't the next presidency, as the only woman that appears to be looking at the job is Hillary. But I agree; if the right woman presented herself, had the right qualifications, values, and agenda, I would vote for her.