SB 1867 and Indefinate detention are we facing a civil WAR?

In early December the US senate passed SB 1867 the defense bill that contained in section 1031 and 1032 a provision that gives the Government the right to indefinitely detain ANYONE who is suspected to have ties to a suspected "terrorist group" without a trial!!
Many are calling this an act of TREASON by our own Government.
Senator Rand Paul fought the bill on the floor of the US Senate and here is his response to this Bill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYbZG1guB_g&feature=related
The group Oathkeepers which is primarily comprised of current and former US military personnel has openly condemned the Bill and also released a list of orders that there members will refuse to obey even under threat of court marshal!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrP7PYIJL0&feature=related
Judge Napolitano on Fox Business states that even Hitler and Stalin did not go this far!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V4oqr5iP-g&feature=player_embedded
My National Political Party has openly and Publicly condemned this Bill here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EStwmlIKjk
On our State of Alabama Facebook site you can find link after link from groups that are openly and publicly condemning this Treasonous Bill. The media is not telling YOU that this is happening and this may well become US law before the new year.

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The
following list of names are the traitors in the Senate that voted to
abolish the "Bill of Rights" of United States Constitution:

D Daniel Akaka HI
R Andrew Alexander TN
R Kelly Ayotte NH
R John Barrasso WY
D Max Baucus MT
D Mark Begich AK
D Michael Bennet CO
D Jesse Bingaman NM
D Richard Blumenthal CT
R Roy Blunt MO
R John Boozman AR
D Barbara Boxer CA
R Scott Brown MA
D Sherrod Brown OH
R Richard Burr NC
D Maria Cantwell WA
D Benjamin Cardin MD
D Thomas Carper DE
D Robert Casey PA
R Clarence Chambliss GA
R Daniel Coats IN
R William Cochran MS
R Susan Collins ME
D Kent Conrad ND
D Christopher Coons DE
R Robert Corker TN
R John Cornyn TX
R Michael Crapo ID
R James DeMint SC
D Richard Durbin IL
R Michael Enzi WY
D Dianne Feinstein CA
D Al Franken MN
D Kirsten Gillibrand NY
R Lindsey Graham SC
R Charles Grassley IA
D Kay Hagan NC
R Orrin Hatch UT
R Dean Heller NV
R John Hoeven ND
R Kathyrn Hutchison TX
R James Inhofe OK
D Daniel Inouye HI
R Johnny Isakson GA
R Mike Johanns NE
R Ron Johnson WI
D Timothy Johnson SD
D John Kerry MA
R Mark Kirk IL
D Amy Klobuchar MN
D Herbert Kohl WI
R Jon Kyl AZ
D Mary Landrieu LA
D Frank Lautenberg NJ
D Patrick Leahy VT
D Carl Levin MI
I Joseph Lieberman CT
R Richard Lugar IN
D Joe Manchin WV
R John McCain AZ
D Claire McCaskill MO
R Addison McConnell KY
D Robert Menéndez NJ
D Barbara Mikulski MD
R Jerry Moran KS
R Lisa Murkowski AK
D Patty Murray WA
D Clarence Nelson FL
D Earl Nelson NE
R Robert Portman OH
D Mark Pryor AR
D John Reed RI
D Harry Reid NV
R James Risch ID
R Charles Roberts KS
D John Rockefeller WV
R Marco Rubio FL
D Charles Schumer NY
R Jefferson Sessions AL
D Jeanne Shaheen NH
R Richard Shelby AL
R Olympia Snowe ME
D Deborah Stabenow MI
D Jon Tester MT
R John Thune SD
R Patrick Toomey PA
D Mark Udall CO
D Thomas Udall NM
R David Vitter LA
D Mark Warner VA
D James Webb VA
D Sheldon Whitehouse RI
R Roger Wicker MS

I ask that you take a look at the links on our Facebook site here https://www.facebook.com/pages/Conservative-Party-Alabama/213818145348591?sk=wall then prayerfully consider joining hands with us and other patriot groups from all across this nation in taking a stand on this issue and against the abolishment of the US Bill Of Rights.
Sincerely
Richard Rutledge
Chairman Conservative Party (Alabama)
http://www.conservativepartyal.org/

This bill is VERY troubling to me, given the fact that there are now 76 detention centers built and ready to go. Just 2 weeks ago, the government started issuing contracts to run these centers (that don't exist).


HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL

sabidoo wrote:

This bill is VERY troubling to me, given the fact that there are now 76 detention centers built and ready to go. Just 2 weeks ago, the government started issuing contracts to run these centers (that don't exist).


HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL

What is = disturbing is that on something this sweeping and serious the Media is dead silent on this Bill!!

When you have a Communist dictatorship taking over your nation, you need the national media to be your puppet. We have that here. Of COURSE, they are not reporting it. WE are probably now suspected terrorists just for discussing this here.

And I make it a point to use ALL the keywords while on the phone. That way I can be guaranteed my conversations are recorded and reported. Then when I have to unload on them, they can't claim they didn't know ahead of time.

Too many Alex Jones 'conspiracy theorists' here...LOL

Ascension wrote:

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D Maria Cantwell WA
D Patty Murray WA

Been trying to vote those two out of office for well over a decade now.

Staybrite wrote:

Ascension wrote:

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D Maria Cantwell WA
D Patty Murray WA

Been trying to vote those two out of office for well over a decade now.

We can use some help in Washington bro. Check us out here http://conservativepartywa.org/.
help us help YOU!

The bill specifically states that the provisions about detention do not change existing laws as they apply to U.S. citizens, meaning due process still applies.

messiaen77 wrote:

The bill specifically states that the provisions about detention do not change existing laws as they apply to U.S. citizens, meaning due process still applies.

WRONG SB 1867 brings the mainland US into the field of battle for the war on Terror and it does this in sections 1031 and 1032. In the new House Bill that will be heard on next Wednesday that has now been changed

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It appears that the National Defense Authorization Act is going to be
passed out of the conference committee and sent to the House for final
approval on Wednesday. Despite tens of thousands of emails and calls
the wording in the bill which would allow indefinite military detention
of US citizens has not been changed, though the offending sections have
been renumbered to cause confusion. They are now sections 1021 and
1022. (see the conference report at
http://www.rules.house.gov/Media/file/PDF_112_1/legislativetext/HR1540conf.pdf )

If you are part of ANY group that is a SUSPECTED terrorist group then you if this passes are subject to being picked up by the military and detained indefinitely. No trial no phone call no lawyer or Miranda rights you just disappear!
Here is the national group Oathkeepers on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrP7PYIJL0&feature=related
Oathkeepers was founded by Military personnel and is a well respected patriot group with deep roots in the US Military ranks.
Senator Rand Paul on the Bill after it was rammed through the Senate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYbZG1guB_g&feature=related
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messiaen77 wrote:

The bill specifically states that the provisions about detention do not change existing laws as they apply to U.S. citizens, meaning due process still applies.

That was in the original bill, but stripped out at Obama's insistence. There is a new bill to try to reassert habeus corpus, but it would have been better not to pass the original legislation at all.

http://coloradoindependent.com/108247/udall-introduces-bill-to-ensure-that-americans-cannot-be-held-indefinitely-without-charges