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Subject: Rebecca St. James Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:04 am
She had some c00l tunes I saw on Gospel Music TV Programs back in the 90's and 2000's . R u a fan ?
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:05 am
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:00 pm
She did three cool rock albums. The rest of her stuff is either two pop or worshippy stuff
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:35 pm
I loved that song she did "Your the Voice". Oddly enough the secular band Heart would cover the same song a few years later on one of their live albums. I have an old internet friend in Phoenix that really used to love all her stuff (not so sure about now though).
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:28 am
I was a fan back in the late 90s, have her first three albums. The RSJ debut was definitely pop, Pray and God were much more rock. Can't say I've followed her since then, as I don't listen to radio and have no idea what she's done (other than try some acting and get married).
Speaking of radio, Christian radio is a sad place. Most of radio is, probably. There used to be independent stations where I got turned on to some neat stuff (they'd actually schedule shows with different music formats, what a concept!), but for the most part it's all the same sound, looping every two hours or so, 24/7.
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:14 pm
ChristTrekker wrote:
I was a fan back in the late 90s, have her first three albums. The RSJ debut was definitely pop, Pray and God were much more rock. Can't say I've followed her since then, as I don't listen to radio and have no idea what she's done (other than try some acting and get married).
Speaking of radio, Christian radio is a sad place. Most of radio is, probably. There used to be independent stations where I got turned on to some neat stuff (they'd actually schedule shows with different music formats, what a concept!), but for the most part it's all the same sound, looping every two hours or so, 24/7.
You can still have that experience, but you have to switch from terrestrial radio to streaming. There are many internet based stations that can give you different artists and genres. I don't know so much about indie bands, though. Even they seem to have to pay to really get included in very many playlists.
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:54 pm
And what a beautiful woman Rebecca has always been
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:17 am
Staybrite wrote:
I loved that song she did "Your the Voice". Oddly enough the secular band Heart would cover the same song a few years later on one of their live albums. I have an old internet friend in Phoenix that really used to love all her stuff (not so sure about now though).
Dang, now I want to hear what Heart did with their cover version.
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:24 pm
My wife and I really liked her back in the 90s. I still listen to “Pray” occasionally. It’s a fantastic album. The worshipful “Omega” at the end is so good.
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:26 am
I still see her on FB.
Something about marriage has tempered down her music.
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:09 am
Staybrite wrote:
I loved that song she did "Your the Voice". Oddly enough the secular band Heart would cover the same song a few years later on one of their live albums. I have an old internet friend in Phoenix that really used to love all her stuff (not so sure about now though). "
The Heart cover was the only version I knew until just this minute. As I listen to RSJ I kept expecting her to go "Ohh-oh-ohhh-oh-oh-oh-oh. Whoa-ohhh-oh-ohhh-oh-oh-oh-oh. Oh-oh-ohhhhhh"
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:45 pm
Jen5 wrote:
Staybrite wrote:
I loved that song she did "Your the Voice". Oddly enough the secular band Heart would cover the same song a few years later on one of their live albums. I have an old internet friend in Phoenix that really used to love all her stuff (not so sure about now though). "
The Heart cover was the only version I knew until just this minute. As I listen to RSJ I kept expecting her to go "Ohh-oh-ohhh-oh-oh-oh-oh. Whoa-ohhh-oh-ohhh-oh-oh-oh-oh. Oh-oh-ohhhhhh"
Oh man that is hilarious! Like you I only knew of the Heart version (which strangely enough is only available as a live recording on their "Rock the House Live" album). It wasn't until my wife picked up the RSJ album and I heard that version that I said "hey what's going on here". I though for sure RSJ was doing a Heart cover. But it turns out the song was written by 3 or 4 other songwriters (who I think all worked in different bands). The first recording of the track (I'm pretty sure) was by Aussie vocalist Mark Farnham back in 1986. Heart's live version was recorded in 1990, and RSJ released the track in 1996.
Here is the live Heart version for those of you interested.
Oddly enough there is another version of the song by the Alan Parsons Project that includes Chris Thompson on vocals. Chris was one of the artists credited with having written the tune. This version is from the mid-90's some time after Heart recorded their version. Strange to have an original artist officially record one of the songs they wrote so long after it's original recording.
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:50 pm
Ok, I'm a total nerd when it comes to cover tunes (just ask Guilty/Forgiven)... As I was doing a little research I found another cover version of this song. Blind Guardian did this cover back in 2010. Despite it being recorded by a very competent metal band I find this version to be pretty bad. Maybe it's the major key or something... but I'm not digging this at all.
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:48 pm
The big thing with the Blind Guardian version is they gave it a very generic, unmemorable riff. Liven it up, guys!
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:01 pm
alldatndensum wrote:
The big thing with the Blind Guardian version is they gave it a very generic, unmemorable riff. Liven it up, guys!
Yes, that too.
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:44 am
That was fascinating. I love seeing the way different bands interpret the same song. RSJ was the most different from the original. Her version is a pretty quirky. Agreed about BG, but imo, they're really close to nailing. Like Chris says, it just needs a little salt and pepper to spice it up. My big question is who is playing the mandolin in the Heart version
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:24 am
Jen5 wrote:
That was fascinating. I love seeing the way different bands interpret the same song. RSJ was the most different from the original. Her version is a pretty quirky. Agreed about BG, but imo, they're really close to nailing. Like Chris says, it just needs a little salt and pepper to spice it up. My big question is who is playing the mandolin in the Heart version
Yes, Rebecca's version almost has this odd electronica sound to it. Very interesting.
Both of the Wilson sisters from Heart have been known to play the mandolin, but I am guessing it might be one of their old friends who they would often take on tour with them. Sue Ennis possibly, she would often play keyboards with them on tour and the Wilson sisters have been friends with her for decades (maybe even before they were in Heart). Frank Cox is another long time friend and collaborator musician who plays mandolin. Or possibly just a hired gun.... dang it, now I gotta dig out the album and see if someone is credited with playing the mandolin on the recording.
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:35 am
I'm listening to Rebecca's version again and the first thing that hits me is Alanis Morissette (especially in the verses). Would make since because Morissette's "Jagged Little Pill" album was released in 1995 and it dominated the radio for quite some time.
Here are the credits for the Rock The House Live! album. Apparently it was Nancy... or Howard on the mandolin
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:54 am
Staybrite wrote:
I'm listening to Rebecca's version again and the first thing that hits me is Alanis Morissette (especially in the verses). Would make since because Morissette's "Jagged Little Pill" album was released in 1995 and it dominated the radio for quite some time.
Here are the credits for the Rock The House Live! album. Apparently it was Nancy... or Howard on the mandolin
It must have been Howard playing because in the concert Nancy is playing what looks like a dreadnought
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Subject: Re: Rebecca St. James Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:17 pm
Jen5 wrote:
Staybrite wrote:
I'm listening to Rebecca's version again and the first thing that hits me is Alanis Morissette (especially in the verses). Would make since because Morissette's "Jagged Little Pill" album was released in 1995 and it dominated the radio for quite some time.
Here are the credits for the Rock The House Live! album. Apparently it was Nancy... or Howard on the mandolin
It must have been Howard playing because in the concert Nancy is playing what looks like a dreadnought
It certainly looks like a 12-string Ovation that she's playing. But I'm not certain the all the concert footage is necessarily from that song. Someone is playing electric guitar on the song (I can hear those big sweeping power chords on the chorus). But who knows how much of the music was added in the studio to "enhance" the live music... or possibly Howard did the mandolin on the verses and the electric on the chorus (I've seen that done live).... however there is a mandolin solo with an electric guitar backing it up. I even saw the band during this tour, but have no idea who played which stringed instruments on this song.
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