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Subject: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:25 pm
So since I'm no John 5 or Eddie Van Halen I guess I just had to make some parts John Evans.
Jen5
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:26 pm
...if it's cool enough for the mighty John5, then it's gotta be a'right.
MikeInFla
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:32 am
I have to admit that Thriller is one of my all time favorite albums. Not a bad track on that album at all. And thanks for sharing, nice guitar work.
alldatndensum Admin
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:20 am
Sounded pretty cool to me. I should try something like that with my cigar box guitars.
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:37 pm
I've always thought that song would make a great 80's metal classic. Saw your vid on facebook last night and liked it immediately, love the who "soloing the vocal melody" thingy...very cool!
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JLE3
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:03 pm
MikeInFla wrote:
I have to admit that Thriller is one of my all time favorite albums. Not a bad track on that album at all. And thanks for sharing, nice guitar work.
I remember when Thriller came out. It was so huge at the time. And that video was really awesome. Like a mini movie. There are a few Michael Jackson tunes that could easily be turned into rock or metal songs. Some already have been. I'm not really a pop music fan, but in private when no one is looking I might sneak one onto my playlist for a few spins.
JLE3
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:06 pm
alldatndensum wrote:
Sounded pretty cool to me. I should try something like that with my cigar box guitars.
Do it!
JLE3
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:12 pm
Staybrite wrote:
I've always thought that song would make a great 80's metal classic. Saw your vid on facebook last night and liked it immediately, love the who "soloing the vocal melody" thingy...very cool!
Thanks. Yeah that is the John 5 version of the song that I did. He does a great job with it but he still maintained the Eddie Van Halen solo. I learned most of the John 5 parts and then some of the Eddie solo but then just got impatient and decided to do my own thing. Besides EVH guitar solos are not that easy to play so I say just do your own thing. I also thought the bridge of the song could benefit from being more METAL so I did that too. Lol
Jen5
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:14 pm
JLE3 wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:
Sounded pretty cool to me. I should try something like that with my cigar box guitars.
Do it!
I second that motion, Chris. Like these dudes, but heavier...
messiaen77
Number of posts : 2152 Age : 52 Localisation : in a yellow submarine Registration date : 2011-08-23
Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Wed May 02, 2018 8:39 am
Well now I wonder which one came first...
Jen5
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Wed May 02, 2018 4:14 pm
I really liked that, mess. What fabulous performers. I've never seen them before. They sure nailed that song (better than the original I reckon)
messiaen77
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Wed May 02, 2018 6:30 pm
I LOVED the Civil Wars. They had such great chemistry. I think that might be the only group I've ever truly felt depressed over the news of their breakup. I got each of their post-Civil Wars solo albums and while they were good, neither has the same umph that their collaborative work had.
Jen5
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Wed May 02, 2018 7:14 pm
messiaen77 wrote:
I LOVED the Civil Wars. They had such great chemistry. I think that might be the only group I've ever truly felt depressed over the news of their breakup. I got each of their post-Civil Wars solo albums and while they were good, neither has the same umph that their collaborative work had.
A good collaboration is like that. If all parts are working well together, the creative outcome should be better than what each part could do on their own. That's why it's so tragic when a great collab breaks up. You lose that 1+1=4 and you're left with two ones. That said, an artist needs to keep moving forward. If the creative spring has run dry or if one artist wants to go one way with the music and the other wants to go another way, then time's up. Hopefully, they'll find other collaborators that have an equally wonderful, but different, chemistry.
I just checked out some of John Paul's solo stuff. I see what you mean. It's now a guy in a room instead of guy and a gal and creative sparks and banter. it's less for sure. That said, I'm loving his song "What's so." I just might have to do a cover of this song some day (if I can just figure out what the lyrics mean)
alldatndensum Admin
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Wed May 02, 2018 8:44 pm
Jen5 wrote:
JLE3 wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:
Sounded pretty cool to me. I should try something like that with my cigar box guitars.
Do it!
I second that motion, Chris. Like these dudes, but heavier...
I have this version! I bought the downloads when the album came out. Shane is THE guy who brought along the craze for building and playing cigar box guitars. He resurrected the movement and it has been growing. It may grow even faster with Gibson now in bankruptcy and Fender could follow any time.
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Thu May 03, 2018 7:50 am
You are a wonderful guitarist. I like the idea to try it on a cigar box guitar JLE.
Staybrite
Number of posts : 23253 Age : 56 Localisation : Arizona Desert Registration date : 2007-02-08
Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Thu May 03, 2018 2:51 pm
Jen5 wrote:
messiaen77 wrote:
...
A good collaboration is like that. If all parts are working well together, the creative outcome should be better than what each part could do on their own. That's why it's so tragic when a great collab breaks up. You lose that 1+1=4 and you're left with two ones. That said, an artist needs to keep moving forward. If the creative spring has run dry or if one artist wants to go one way with the music and the other wants to go another way, then time's up. Hopefully, they'll find other collaborators that have an equally wonderful, but different, chemistry. ....
I remember being a teen and talking to my step-father about The Beatles and Lennon, McCartney & Harrison's solo work. I remember wondering why their solo stuff didn't seem nearly as good (in general) as their work with the Beatles. He used your explanation (almost exactly) to explain that The Beatles were much more than just a sum of their individual parts.
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Staybrite
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Thu May 03, 2018 2:57 pm
Regarding Billie Jean, this has to be one of my favorite versions of this song. I've loved his voice since I first heard it on the Louder than Love album (by Soundgarden).
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Jen5
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Thu May 03, 2018 4:03 pm
I love his voice too. He always injected the perfect amount of grit into his voice. I've never heard that version. Niice. It's hard to listen to though. I find any Chris Cornell or Chester Bennington stuff is hard to hear now. I can't listen to Chester's Numb without tears. Such a stupid loss.
As for... "I remember being a teen and talking to my step-father about The Beatles and Lennon, McCartney & Harrison's solo work.... He used your explanation (almost exactly) to explain that The Beatles were much more than just a sum of their individual parts."
That's just great minds and all that.
Staybrite
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Subject: Re: Beat It - Oh yes I went there! Fri May 04, 2018 3:02 pm
Jen5 wrote:
.. As for... "I remember being a teen and talking to my step-father about The Beatles and Lennon, McCartney & Harrison's solo work.... He used your explanation (almost exactly) to explain that The Beatles were much more than just a sum of their individual parts."
That's just great minds and all that.
Very true.
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