A second look at KnightRiot

As some know, I've been working on my Collection Website and adding info on the bands.

Tonight I read as much as I could find on this band that had a song on "Underground Metal II." I actually found nothing about Christianity, Faith, God, anything ! Rather, I found a band that supports legalizing pot as well as having a very suggestive pornographic pic on their MySpace.
http://www.myspace.com/theknightriot

The only thing I found was at Encylopedia Metallum where it says "Lyrical Themes" - it states Christianity.

So my question is, were some of the original band members believers, thus the Christian-based lyrics ? I understand a lot of members were replaced over the years, thus possibly squeezing out the Spiritual message and over time creating a secular band ?

Anyone else know anything about KnightRiot ?

Well lo and behold.... I pulled out my trusty issue of White Throne #7... and on page 37 there is a review and PHOTO of Knight Riot....


Yup it's the same band as the MySpace account.... as far as any other history of the band...


I really don't know... and I would say as well ... based on their MySpace page things have changed....

That's what I thought...

Bummer.

I realize we're not under the Law and that we're all sinners... but when I see:
A. a semi-pornographic picture
B. A glorification of marijuana
C. A big "F*** you" to those who don't like them...

that's when I'm taken back and wonder where's the desire to represent ?

Sad indeed.

Maybe it's like a Vengeance Rising kind of deal where the remaining member(s) have turned from God....IDK.

But I have to confess that I wasn't a big fan of their music when I first heard them...so I never spent any time researching the group.

Actually there are several bands on this album that are not Christian. As for the hemp thing many christians don't have a problem with it. While I am no longer a user I have no problem with the legalization of it nor do I think its anti Christian. Another famous Christian band that supports hemp and has played at many pro festivals is Precious Death.

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A. a semi-pornographic picture
B. A glorification of marijuana
C. A big "F*** you" to those who don't like them...

Personally I don't have a problem with any of this and would not be turned off nor do I find any of it to be Anti-Christian...
I do find the bands music to be not my thing though and very poorly recorded.

No, they aren't "anti-Christian". I think they are "anti-Christ" and His teachings.

alldatndensum wrote:

No, they aren't "anti-Christian". I think they are "anti-Christ" and His teachings.

I would agree with this assessment........if you don't have a problem, as a Christian, with pornography, drugs, and profanity, then what do you have a problem with?

bassdude wrote:

........if you don't have a problem, as a Christian, with pornography, drugs, and profanity, then what do you have a problem with?

Kind of wondering that myself.

Me too, but I figured it was a can of wourms I didn't wanna open...

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if you don't have a problem, as a Christian, with pornography, drugs, and profanity, then what do you have a problem with?

those who teach that the law (including the 10 commandment) are necessary to obtain or maintain salvation, Calvinism, Catholicism, Any works based teaching, those who say we must be obedient, Lordship Salvation, those who say we do not have to be born again, "Conservative" Christianity, religion, the idea of Judeo Christianity (we are not Judeo Christians but New Covenant followers of Christ), those who deny the trinity...
Let me explain now...

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I believe in Pauline Free Grace Theology....
We believe that man does not go to hell because of Sin but because of their unbelief in Christ. God says in order for one to obtain Salvation all they have to do is believe in the death and resurrection of Christ, believe that he is the son of God and put their faith in him to be saved. Repent in our eyes is to change ones view of belief in Christ. Simply put..those who do not put their faith alone in the risen savior will be damned by their own decisions and those who do put their faith alone in Christ as the risen savior will be saved. We believe man has complete Free Will. We believe that Gods will is that all mankind be saved and wishes for all mankind to believe in Jesus. Thats it...he doesn't have any other will for mankind. he doesn't care where we work, or what kind of car we drive or who we marry, etc. ..
He doesn't force anyone to believe but he offers free salvation to all mankind but one must choose him from their own free will. The spirit is always wooing the unsaved. The only purpose for the law is to show mankind that they need a savior. The law is for the unsaved only. As for the Christian the law is no more...done away with completely and replaced solely. We live under grace and are led by the spirit...not the law, not rules. Those who add any portion of the law as a condition of salvation or as a condition to maintain salvation or as a way to please God teach a false Gospel and are not saved.
Jesus died once for the sins of all mankind and all sin past, present and future has been forgiven. Jesus was born under the law and therefore taught under the law. Sermons such as the sermon on the mount were taught to show people what the law really expected and to show them that no one could keep it. What Jesus taught is impossible to keep and he knew it. But he also taught that a NEW COVENANT was coming and there one be a day where we no longer worshiped in temples or on a mountain or with sacrifice and rules.. but by the spirit. Our spirit is who we really are...not our flesh. When we are saved our old dead spirit is completely done away with and we are given a new living spirit that is one with Christ. Our new spirit is 100% sinless, holy and righteous. Our flesh stays the same old sin ridden dead flesh. It has a sin virus that lives in it and is at odds with our spirit. Our soul acts as the mirror that reflects our outward actions according to if we are walking by the flesh or by the spirit. We are told to walk by the spirit and get our flesh under control. No amount of obedience or rule keeping keeps the flesh under control..but walking by the spirit only.
Why does God want us to walk by the spirit...because he knows the consequences of walking by the flesh....much like we would tell a child not to touch the hot water on the stove...we know the pain and consequences he would suffer if he pulled it down on him. How do we walk by the spirit....Gods spirit talks to our spirit and we choose to listen to what he tells us. Now if we choose to walk by the flesh after we are saved their will be Earthly consequences but not spiritual consequences. Our Salvation and blessing and Gods love is not based on our lifestyle or actions but entirely on Faith alone. When we are resurrected or raptured we will receive a new Body that is holy and transformed. We will live on the new earth that is perfect in every way. Until then when death occurs the spirits of the saved are taken to heaven (where we have a heavenly body but not our new earthly body) and the spirits of the damned are sent to hell where they are tormented with no hope and no God.
Now back to the original question...while Drugs (I don't consider alcohol, cigarettes and marijuana to be drugs), foul language (everyone has their own opinion on what is and what isn't) and porn may or may not bring earthly consequences they will not cost you your salvation. They are walking by the flesh instead of the spirit but again it won't cost you salvation. So yes, a person could be a drug addicted gay porn-star and still wind up in heaven and yes Hitler could be in heaven and I am not convinced that Judas isn't in heaven. Yes, a person who went to church and gave and was nice and cast demons out in Christ name could end up in Hell. I do not think we should legislate morality and I am convinced to my core that there should be a separation of church and state. this should answer ya'lls question and explain my view on secular music and entertainment and some of the answers and comments I post. I am not judging anyone here on the chm but simply giving a thorough answer to your question.

Believe what you want.......but Paul wrote letters to people to correct very similar beliefs.

Actually bassdude we believe that our belief is exactlly what paul taught and I can back up everything I said with scripture. If you want to continue I will pm with you. I to do not want to open a can of worms here but did answer your question. I will agree to disagree with you though.

I won't change your mind and you won't change mine so I will agree to disagree and drop the subject.

Yep, can of worms.