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icon_red

Number of posts: 24 Registration date: 2007-08-10
 | Subject: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:48 pm | |
| A friend and myself are trying to find all of the albums that Metal/Hard Rock/Rock bands did the switch back in '94-95 or so...we thought of White Cross - Equilibrium Whiteheart - Inside Neon Cross - Torn Holy Soldier - Promise Man Petra - was it "No Doubt"? Bride - Jesus Experience ? |
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Staybrite

Number of posts: 4893 Age: 41 Localisation: Seattle Registration date: 2007-02-08
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:03 pm | |
| I'm not sure I would include the Whiteheart and Petra discs, but I think you certainly have a case for the rest. I kinda thought Neon Cross' "Torn" album was more a throw-back to the 70's sound than it was true "grunge". But having lived through most of the NW/Seattle grunge movement I gotta say it was a rather diverse sounding bunch of bands that got lumped into the "grunge" category so "Torn" probably wouldn't be much of a stretch. You might almost say that Saint's "Perfect Life" album was a foray into the Garage rock & alternative experiment as well. _________________ -- "One day you'll stand before God and realize it wasn't about you"
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Fundy

Number of posts: 1453 Age: 35 Registration date: 2007-05-04
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:39 pm | |
| That only proves one thing.......... I don't like grunge Equilibrium was the worst of the three later Whitecross albums Whiteheart I only own one album so can't comment! Neon Cross' album Torn was good, but not nearly as good as the screaming ST. Holy Soldiers Promise Man I just couldn't get into at all. Both their other albums were great, but the 3rd just had no screaming vocals. Petra's No Doubt was a good album, but far inferior to most of their previous stuff. Bride's JE was my least favourite album by them (it used to be DROP, but that's gone up in my estimation!) If 'you' like grunge then those albums would probably appeal to 'you' , but as for me I like it screaming and high pitched! Bring it on Someone Please! anyone?.............. Fundy |
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Staybrite

Number of posts: 4893 Age: 41 Localisation: Seattle Registration date: 2007-02-08
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:52 pm | |
| See I actually liked "grunge" but did not care for most of those albums. Not to sound like a snob but I think the best grunge actually came from the NW bands, not those established bands trying to ride the trend. From that list above I only really liked Neon Cross' "Torn" & WhiteHeart's "Inside" (but I don't really consider W.H. to fit within the genre). _________________ -- "One day you'll stand before God and realize it wasn't about you"
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MetalFRO

Number of posts: 157 Age: 32 Registration date: 2009-03-15
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:37 pm | |
| Most of those bands you mentioned took some portion of the alternative/grunge rock and assimilated it, but they were still firmly hard rock, just a more modern distillation of it. Grammatrain & Sometime Sunday - THOSE were grunge bands. |
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elsid
Number of posts: 43 Age: 35 Localisation: Dallas/Fort Worth area Registration date: 2009-01-17
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:06 pm | |
| Even Poor Old Lu to some extent, since they were from up that way as well. Most of their stuff had a lighter feel to it, mostly alternative with a splash of grunge, but it was different for the Christian market. |
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Staybrite

Number of posts: 4893 Age: 41 Localisation: Seattle Registration date: 2007-02-08
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:47 pm | |
| | MetalFRO wrote: | | Most of those bands you mentioned took some portion of the alternative/grunge rock and assimilated it, but they were still firmly hard rock, just a more modern distillation of it. Grammatrain & Sometime Sunday - THOSE were grunge bands. |
Agreed, and it just so happens that both Grammatrain and Sometime Sunday where NW bands (from Washington and Oregon).
I would also lump Stir in with that crowd of grunge bands _________________ -- "One day you'll stand before God and realize it wasn't about you"
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icon_red

Number of posts: 24 Registration date: 2007-08-10
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:24 pm | |
| What you sez is true, I don't think WH's "Inside" sounded grungy and Petra's sounds more like a modern-at-the-time rock album, but that is what "reviewers" said at the time (that's how we've been finding most of these discs: by pouring thru old CCM Magazine, HM, 7ball and syndicates)...at least Carman never changed  |
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Guilty/Forgiven

Number of posts: 986 Age: 39 Localisation: Yucca Valley, CA Registration date: 2007-05-18
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:38 am | |
| I've always rather favored GS Megaphone myself (and Stir as already mentioned) |
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alldatndensum Admin

Number of posts: 5494 Age: 40 Localisation: Tennessee Registration date: 2007-01-30
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:06 am | |
| With the Whitecross record, that was an awesome alternative rock record. Too bad it just ticked most Rex era fans off. We had already suffered the loss of our favorite shredder, got a good rock record but without amazing leads (see "Unveiled"), and then got handed a disc that was NOT Whitecross at all. Had Scott released this under a new band name, it would have been so much better received. The Whitecross name should have died when Rex left. Whiteheart did add some grunge elements to their music, but they were still Whiteheart. You can hear their experimentation, and they did it well. Unfortunately, the fans liked it so little that the band folded after this. Oh, it was guitarist Barry Graul (who was in Whitecross) that helped shape the new sound of Whiteheart. This is the same guitarist who played for Halo. He now plays with MercyMe. As for the grunge scene: Sometime Sunday Grammatrain GS Megaphone Reflescent Tide The Prayer Chain Stir Tragedy Ann _________________  "DEJA MOO--The feeling that you've heard this bull before!" |
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icon_red

Number of posts: 24 Registration date: 2007-08-10
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:24 am | |
| I've never heard of Stir, what is a good album to start with? |
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Tall Tyrion

Number of posts: 592 Age: 41 Registration date: 2007-05-17
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:42 am | |
| I thought (and still think) that Equilibrium is Whitecross' best album. While Rex did some outstanding guitar work on the early records, Scott's vocals were much too close to Stephen Pearcy's IMO. I never have understood the appeal of those early WC albums. With Equilibrium, Scott was finally doing vocals that sounded more organic to me. It was like he was finally finding his own voice and not trying so hard to sound like Pearcy. |
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MetalFRO

Number of posts: 157 Age: 32 Registration date: 2009-03-15
 | Subject: Re: When Metal/Rock Went "Grunge"... Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:36 pm | |
| | icon_red wrote: | | I've never heard of Stir, what is a good album to start with? |
Stir only had one album, "Broken Tongues". There was another Stir from Seattle who had 2 albums (self-titled and "Holy Dogs"), but they were a secular band. I never considered Stir to be a grunge band, though. There's some grunge/alternative in their sound, but they're primarily a more modern distillation of hard rock in my opinion. The album gets a bit of a bad rap among hard rock fans who don't like any "alternative" influences in their hard rock (usually the same folks who slag Holy Soldier's "Promise Man" album), but it's a solid album of hard rock. Not spectacular, but certainly not as bad as some make it out to be, mostly because it's not their preference. |
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