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PostSubject: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:11 pm

Here's how I think it stands...........

Bride eras.............
Metal
Show No Mercy
Live To Die
Silence Is Madness

Classic Hard Rock

End Of The Age
Kinetic Faith
Snakes In The Playground
Scarecrow Messiah

Alternative Rock

Drop

Modern Rock
The Jesus Experience
Oddities
Fistful Of Bees

Hard Rock

This Is It
Skin For Skin
Tsar Bomba

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:15 pm

And to be honest, I've enjoyed the journey. Yes, I would have loved them to stay singing in the Silence Is Madness vibe for all 13 albums...... but if that happened we would have never got the amazing Snakes, or the thought provoking Oddities. So I've actually appreciated the changes over the years, because through it all Dale and Troy have always produced some stonking good tunes. My worst Bride album is The Jesus Experience, but that still has some great songs on it, like Worm and Follow Me.

Let's all raise a toast to the brilliance of Bride!

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:04 pm

Cheers!

I stuck with them through all the changes; bought a lot of them straight from the band as new releases. It's ironic that they returned to a style I like while getting away from a message I wanted to hear, but that's life, I suppose.
Nothing is the way we want it to be.

The thing that always impressed me about Bride is, no matter what style they did, it always came out as authenic. If FFOB had been by a "new" band, it would have been a smash hit. It's a shame the way the music industry worships at the altar of youth, even the Christian scene.

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:22 pm

Yes, I also stuck with Bride through all of their various eras. All around, I think this is a good summary/breakdown of the history of Bride, although I might have labeled "Drop" as Acoustic Rock as opposed to Alternative Rock.
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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:24 pm

Fundy wrote:


Classic Hard Rock
End Of The Age


Ok a little confused....
Wasn't this album a "greatest hits pakage" of the first three albums that you have categorized as "metal"? Wouldn't that make it "metal" too....by default.

Don't know for sure because I no longer own any of those first four albums (and never even heard "End of the Age").

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:43 am

Bride has never been a frequent player for me, no matter what style. I just never got into them and Dale's theology has completely turned me off of their last three albums or so. Too much other music I like to spend time trying to force myself to like this group. I have a ton of their CDs, but don't ever listen to them.

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:18 am

Hi Staybrite, I put "End Of The Age" in the Classic Hard Rock section as they had 2 new tracks on that album (and both fitted the Snakes era rather than metal)



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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:31 pm

Fundy wrote:
Hi Staybrite, I put "End Of The Age" in the Classic Hard Rock section as they had 2 new tracks on that album (and both fitted the Snakes era rather than metal)



Fundy


Ok, so you were organizing based on the new songs......make sense now.

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:12 am

Yes, I was a bit vague though, so it's my bad.



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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:57 am

For myself, I would not list any Bride as hard rock. Those albums are different from the first, but they are as much metal as GNR and Skid Row were. I wish Ultmetal would pop in here. Some of the older guys around the CMR would agree and give you the original definition of metal. Bride, except for those three mid-era albums (Drop, Jesus Experience, Oddities) have always brought the metal to me. Those mid-era albums are alternative. Sure, "Fistfull of Bees" has the rap vocals on a lot of songs, but the music on that album is heavier than "Snakes".

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:37 am

Well, we can invite Ultmetal to be a member of CHM and help us with those things.
It's worth to ask him to help us to give a definition of metal.

Isn't it that to devide music in a style is personal too?
Some tell Bride is hard rock, others tell Bride is metal.

It will be very interesting to read Ultmetal's vision about metal ... rock ... hard rock.


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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:09 am

Those "hard rock" albums are definitely in a style similar to Skid Row, GNR, and other grittier bands. Magazines like Hit Parader and Circus called them metal back in the day. If those bands were metal with this style, then I would say that Bride is too. Even early bands like Aerosmith were considered metal back in the day. Many times, we let the younger generation redefine what metal is and then we downgrade many of the old metal styles to just hard rock.

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:54 pm

In the 70's & 80's many many bands where considered "metal" that most wouldn't even think of today.....Def Leppard, Ted Nugent, Van Halen, Blue Oyster Cult, Steppenwolf etc.... All "heavy metal" bands. I to have started to call this type of music "hard rock" just to keep the "younger crowd" from getting confused or angry (even some of the 30-somethings will argue that "x-band" isn't really metal......silly).
But it is all metal music to me.

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:17 pm

Well, it's a toughie, because although I always considered each Bride album metal until Drop came out, there was a definite and deliberate shift on Kinetic Faith. They went from an almost thrash metal sound to more of a commercial metal vibe, with definite sleeze overtones.

You are correct, though, it was all metal in those days...

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:01 am

I hung with them thru Fist Full of Bees, but they lost me with This Is It and Skin for Skin. When they gave up being melodic, they gave up this fan.
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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:46 am

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Well, it's a toughie, because although I always considered each Bride album metal until Drop came out



That's why I said that the mid-era Bride discs were alternative. I consider those to be "Drop", "The Jesus Experience", and "Oddities". The three of these were heavily influenced by the alternative scene.


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there was a definite and deliberate shift on Kinetic Faith.


I agree that the style was totally different by "Kinetic Faith". However, you can hear the beginnings of the shift on "Silence Is Madness". About half that album, if overproduced in similar fashion, could have been used on "KInetic Faith".

I'd still love to hear "Kinetic Faith" either remixed without all the extra effects or rebuilt from the ground up. I think that album would have been perceived a lot differently had it not been for the overuse of guitar effects.

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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:56 am

Kinitec Faith is one of my favorite Bride Cds.

Steppenwolf heavy metal.
In my opinion Alice Cooper was heavy metal.
So you see how tough it is to place bands in a music style.
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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:42 pm

I always felt like the "Kinetic Faith" through "Scarecrow Messiah" trod that line between hard rock and commercial metal, though the latter 2 albums in that triumvirate are definitely on the heavier side of the coin, so they're most probably metal. "Kinetic Faith" could probably be considered metal, but the production is so weak that the guitars lack a lot of the punch that the album really needed. I think it was a weaker effort, to be sure. Still, some classic tuneage on that one as well, so it's all good.

I still don't own FFOB, and after hearing "Dog the Nines" on Reign Radio, I felt like it would be the last Bride album I pick up. That's not because I dislike rap-rock: far from it. I'm a huge POD fan, and I like many other rap-rock/rapcore bands, but w/ Bride it felt a little forced. I still don't have "Drop" for some reason, though I liked what I heard from it. I do believe while "The Jesus Experience" is weaker than its predecessors, it's still a quality album, and at least didn't have the production issues that KF had, so it sounded good all the way through, even if the songwriting dipped in quality a bit. I did think SFS sounded great, in terms of production, but I'm w/ nazpastor - Dale's theology has slipped and I've been less anxious to support his "ministry" from that standpoint. Still, the new album shaped up nicely, and I will probably pick it up at some point.
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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:43 pm

nazpastor wrote:
Bride has never been a frequent player for me, no matter what style. I just never got into them and Dale's theology has completely turned me off of their last three albums or so. Too much other music I like to spend time trying to force myself to like this group. I have a ton of their CDs, but don't ever listen to them.


I used to own EOTA, Snakes, Kinetic Faith, and Drop back in the day...but DT's theology likewise turned me off. I ended up tossing them all, and I don't regret it a bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Summing Up The Bride Eras.........   Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:46 am

Welcome Demolitian Man at CHM.
We hope you feel comfortable to tell us what's your favorite musid is and discuss with us about music.
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