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PostSubject: Purposely Blind Americans   Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:14 pm

I am utterly sick and tired of the idiotic mass of mindless cows in this Country who refuse to SEE what's going on !

For example: When I create a post of awareness on FB that has clear and true statistics of Islamic attacks on American soil that has claimed many lives of our fellow Americans - THE FIRST response I get is from another American, with no association with Islam, who immediately defends Islam by trying to change the subject with stats of "THE CRUSADES" of all things !  

This is the mindset of Americans it seems. I went on to explain that Islamic terrorism is a clear and present danger that affects all Americans - The Crusades are OVER ! The past !  This is the kind of arguing that pisses me off - Like when white man's ancestors are brought up in regards to slavery... we have to carry the guilt of our forefathers ?? I object ! I LIVE NOW, not 100 years ago, or 500 years ago or more. NOW ! You can quote some Scripture at me about the sins of our fathers and such, but I'M NOT PREJUDICED ! I'M NOT FLYING PLANES INTO BUILDINGS !  

It seems more people are afraid of "hurting someone's feelings" than to worry about their own sons and daughters being slaughtered by religious freaks !

I don't understand the people's mindset.
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PostSubject: Re: Purposely Blind Americans   Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:10 pm

I agree, Jim.  I don't understand why we are bowing down to kiss radical Islam's butt.  I feel that they are going to be the "great whore of Babylon" that appears in Revelation.

As far as the Crusades go, why are we held responsible for something that happened CENTURIES ago but not since?  Besides, if you look into them historically, MOST of the Crusades were fought to stop the Muslim threat in Europe as they invaded to force people to change religions by the sword.  The tactics are the same, but political correctness has become the cloak they get to hide behind now. 

The Church did not start the Crusades.  The Islamist extremists in all but one Crusade were the aggressors and the Church was merely the bankroll for the military response to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Purposely Blind Americans   Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:03 pm

I shall tread lightly here because I know my thoughts are unpopular with most here.  I respect your views on this and will absolutely agree that those horrific terrorist acts were committed by Muslims.  The issue I take with the post is that it fails to make the distinction that you did in your comments and that alldat made above which is that these acts were the actions of extremists and radicals.  Yes, I know one can quote the Quran to show that violence and killing is sanctioned or commanded by Islam, but you and I both know that there are Scriptures--both OT and NT--that could lead a radical/extremist group of people who claim Christianity to do the same thing.  Further, you could make a similar list of terrorist acts committed by non-Muslims--Oklahoma City, Atlanta's Olympic Park, various abortion clinic bombings, Klan lynchings, assassinations and attempted assassinations of Kennedy, Reagan, MLK, abortion doctors to name a few--so the graphic is also deceiving in that it attempts to convey the idea that terrorist=Muslim.  Your critic on Facebook was just being lazy because you don't have to go all the way to the Middle Ages to find examples of non-Muslim terrorism.  

So for me, it isn't a matter of "political correctness" or not wanting to hurt people's feelings.  It is that I do not want to saddle an entire group of people with the sins of their extremists.  We are quick to disassociate from the actions of groups like Westboro Baptist when people use them as an example of Christianity, but we seem intent on maintaining the line that al-Qaeda and ISIS are the norm for Islam.  I just want to be fair to everyone because I think that is what a Christian should do.  I'm not naive and no one has ever accused me of being too trusting.  I just believe there is a difference between Islamic extremists and the average Muslim.
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PostSubject: Re: Purposely Blind Americans   Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:57 am

I think everyone here knows about the general stupidity of the average Westerner on this subject.
Just adding one small (fun) thing:

Whenever someone starts about the crusades, do a counterattack and start about the battle of Tours (AKA the battle of Poitiers) in 732. More than 300 years before the crusades, muslim agressors were defeated and stopped from conquering Europe in the name of islam.

After that, we'll talk about the crusades Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Purposely Blind Americans   Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:08 am

messiaen77 wrote:
I shall tread lightly here because I know my thoughts are unpopular with most here.  I respect your views on this and will absolutely agree that those horrific terrorist acts were committed by Muslims.  The issue I take with the post is that it fails to make the distinction that you did in your comments and that alldat made above which is that these acts were the actions of extremists and radicals.  Yes, I know one can quote the Quran to show that violence and killing is sanctioned or commanded by Islam, but you and I both know that there are Scriptures--both OT and NT--that could lead a radical/extremist group of people who claim Christianity to do the same thing.  Further, you could make a similar list of terrorist acts committed by non-Muslims--Oklahoma City, Atlanta's Olympic Park, various abortion clinic bombings, Klan lynchings, assassinations and attempted assassinations of Kennedy, Reagan, MLK, abortion doctors to name a few--so the graphic is also deceiving in that it attempts to convey the idea that terrorist=Muslim.  Your critic on Facebook was just being lazy because you don't have to go all the way to the Middle Ages to find examples of non-Muslim terrorism.  

So for me, it isn't a matter of "political correctness" or not wanting to hurt people's feelings.  It is that I do not want to saddle an entire group of people with the sins of their extremists.  We are quick to disassociate from the actions of groups like Westboro Baptist when people use them as an example of Christianity, but we seem intent on maintaining the line that al-Qaeda and ISIS are the norm for Islam.  I just want to be fair to everyone because I think that is what a Christian should do.  I'm not naive and no one has ever accused me of being too trusting.  I just believe there is a difference between Islamic extremists and the average Muslim.


You phrased what I wanted to say very well.

I actually work with several Muslims, and they all know I'm a Christian. And to be honest, those 7 or 8 folks are some of the nicest, kindest and gentlest folks who work here. Sadly, so many of the people who call themselves Christians are either sneaky and manipulative, or just straight up a$$holes.
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